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This is the printed record of a July 26, 2023 hearing of the House Oversight and Accountability Subcommittee on National Security, the Border, and Foreign Affairs, published by the U.S. Government Publishing Office as Serial No. 118-53. Witnesses Ryan Graves, David Grusch and retired Commander David Fravor testified about unidentified anomalous phenomena. Members pressed for government transparency, criticized AARO's classified budget and stigma against reporting, and Graves described a near miss with a dark cube inside a clear sphere.

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  • p. 6 …Congress should work to ensure that knowledge is not driven by fear. Today, we are not…
  • p. 8 …We need to tell the folks at the Pentagon they work for us, daggum it. We…
  • p. 9 …In being an active-duty service member working on an airfield, I have had conversations with…
  • p. 11 …I am proud to say that this hearing builds upon bipartisan work by Members of the…
  • p. 12 …I want to thank, obviously, committee staff and their staff work- ing on this on a…
  • p. 13 …And, finally, retired Navy Commander David Fravor, squadron leader who worked as a naval aviator for…
  • p. 18 …They work with Leslie Keane, who is present today, Ralph Blumenthal and Helene Cooper to publish…
  • p. 20 …If you had one, you captured one, you reverse engineered it, you got it to work…
  • p. 21 …And so can you just briefly—you mentioned that you are working with 30 pilots right…
  • p. 22 …be an outcome that this Committee can work on. Is there anything else just for the…
  • p. 23 19 particularly by the 30 folks that you are working with, are essen- tially outside the…
  • p. 27 …To your knowledge, are NHIs working with adversarial foreign governments in either technology exchange programs or…
  • p. 29 …Grusch, as a result of your previous govern- ment work, have you met with people with…
  • p. 32 …marketplaces, and I think NASA’s work, as they work to identify and highlight specific parameters…
  • p. 33 …I have been working with the American Institute of Aero- nautics and Astronautics to help them…
  • p. 35 …hammered, but seems like it does not work the other way, right. Mr. BURCHETT. If you…
  • p. 40 …a theo- retical framework at least to work off to kind of espouse crashes. Regardless of…
  • p. 41 …did not have a FLIR system that worked. Here is what he said. They were out…
  • p. 45 …Got a Master’s from Univer- sity of Houston and I have worked in the private…
  • p. 48 …Do you have any personal knowledge of someone who has possibly been injured working on legacy…
  • p. 50 …we had at the entrance to our working area. One of these objects was completely stationary…
  • p. 51 47 exact entrance to our working areas, not only geographically but also altitude. So, it was…
  • p. 52 …I do want to thank the Committee staff on both sides for the amount of work…
  • p. 53 …the broader issue as it relates to working with our Republican counterparts on this Committee. I…
  • p. 54 …I need to compliment the folks in my office that did a lot of the work…
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UNIDENTIFIED ANOMALOUS PHENOMENA:
IMPLICATIONS ON NATIONAL SECURITY,
PUBLIC SAFETY, AND GOVERNMENT
TRANSPARENCY
Wednesday, July 26, 2023
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON OVERSIGHT AND ACCOUNTABILITY
SUBCOMMITTEE ON NATIONAL SECURITY,
THE BORDER, AND FOREIGN AFFAIRS
Washington, D.C.
The Subcommittee met, pursuant to notice, at 10:06 a.m., in
room 2154, Rayburn Office Building, Hon. Glenn Grothman,
[Chairman of the Subcommittee] presiding.
Present: Representatives Grothman, Gosar, Foxx, Sessions,
Biggs, Mace, LaTurner, Armstrong, Perry, Garcia, Moskowitz, and
Frost.
Also present: Representatives Luna, Burlison, Gaetz, Burchett,
Comer, Ogles, Langworthy, Raskin, and Ocasio-Cortez.
Mr. GROTHMAN. The Subcommittee on unidentified anomalous
phenomena, or UAPs, will come to order.
Welcome, everyone. Without objection, the Chair may declare a
recess at any time. Additionally, without objection, the following
Members are waived on to the Subcommittee for the purpose of
participating in today’s hearing: Mr. Burchett of Tennessee, Ms.
Luna of Florida, Mr. Gaetz of Florida, Mr. Burlison of Missouri,
Ms. Ocasio-Cortez of New York, and Mr. Ogles of Tennessee. With-
out objection so ordered.
For today’s Subcommittee hearing both the Chair and Ranking
Member will have 10 minutes for opening remarks. We may both
be giving some of those minutes to other Members of our party.
I am now going to recognize myself for 10 minutes. I am actually
going to try to get out of here in about four and then we will give
it to some of my friends over here.
Good morning, and welcome to the most exciting Subcommittee
in Congress this week, the Subcommittee on National Security, the
Border, and Foreign Affairs for discussion of unidentified anoma-
lous phenomenon.
I would like to thank the brave military panelists and personnel,
such as the witnesses on the panel today, for sharing their stories
on how they have engaged UAPs, which has brought attention to
this matter.

Cases discussed

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